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Reverend Albert Jackson and Mrs. Clemmie Jackson on Leisure (Interview Excerpt)


Reverend Albert Jackson and Mrs. Clemmie Jackson on Leisure (Interview Excerpt)



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Reverend Albert and Clemmie Jackson

Interviewer: Maureen Elgersman Lee

Interviewer: “Okay. Good. Are there any events in Lewiston and Auburn's history that stand out in your memories? Some people talk about when, um, Mohammed Ali came to fight in Lewiston. Is that something that, ah, either stands out in your memory, or is that something that still people talk about?”

Rev. Jackson: “Actually, when, ah, um, ah, um, Cassius Clay, as that was his name at the time.” Interviewer: “Right.” Rev. Jackson: “It was in the '60s. He actually put Maine on the map. And, ah, ah -- and -- and that's, ah, about the only -- actually event that I – I can really, ah, ah, acquaint myself to thinking.”

Interviewer: “Mmmhmm.”

Rev. Jackson: “And, um -- and -- and he was here and -- and it brought various people from -- from all over -- all over the, um, ah, United States just to come here to Lewiston and Auburn -- just to see Lewiston and Auburn.”

Interviewer: “Okay. So were you living here when that took place?”

Rev. Jackson: “I was living -- I was living here then.”

Interviewer: “So you remember that?”

Rev. Jackson: “Yes.”

Interviewer: “Very clearly?”

Rev. Jackson: “Mmm. Very clearly.”

Interviewer: “Okay. Did you -- did you go -- did you see it?”

Rev. Jackson: I was -- I was there.

Interviewer: “Were you there? Okay. Great. Well, then –”

Rev. Jackson: “I didn't have a chance to go inside the, ah, building -- I was there though.”

Interviewer: “Oh.”

Rev. Jackson: “But it was, ah -- it was so crowded. Ah, people, you know -- but I did -- I did -- I experienced that -- that highlight at that time. I can get -- get into the building but I was -- I was on the outside.”

Interviewer: “Okay. What did it feel like?”

Rev. Jackson: “It was very exciting. It was -- it was something that -- that Maine wasn't, you know, accustomed to and -- and everything was just -everyone's excited and the people, you see, that they interviewed. Some people working with their cameras and they were flashing and people were excited. And it was just an exciting event at that time.”

Reverend Albert Jackson (born in Slabfork, Virginia; age 61; lived in Maine for 43 years) and Mrs. Clemmie Jackson (born March 1948 in Marengo County, Alabama; age 55; lived in Maine for 3.5 years)

Full-Length Interview: Home is Where I Make It: Jackson, Rev. Albert and Clemmie Jackson

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USM African American Collection


Lewiston, Maine


Leisure, African American History, Maine


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Reverend Albert Jackson and Mrs. Clemmie Jackson on Leisure (Interview Excerpt)