OUT cast 11/01/2021


OUT cast 11/01/2021


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Tune into OUT Cast on Monday, November 1st to hear OUT Cast collective member Richard Doherty’s interview with Mael Embser-Herbert, Professor of Sociology at Hamline University and Lieutenant Colonel Bree Fram from the US Space Force about their new book With Honor and Integrity: Transgender Troops in Their Own Words (NYU Press; November 9, 2021) MAEL EMBSER-HERBERT Mael Embser-Herbert is a veteran of the US Army and author of Camouflage Isn’t Only for Combat: Gender, Sexuality, and Women in the Military and is author of The US Military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” Policy: A Reference Handbook. BREE FRAM Bree Fram has also held command at the squadron level, led Air Force security cooperation with Iraq, and led space acquisition programs. She is the President of SPARTA, a transgender military advocacy organization, and is currently the highest ranking out transgender officer in the US military. Their book explores the question of whether transgender service members celebrate the future of a more inclusive military—or prepare for the next administration to turn back the clock again? It also addresses other concerns— practical, social, financial, and medical— through the voices of transgender military personnel, past and present. They share honest, heartfelt, and often heart-wrenching accounts from 26 individuals who know what it is like to serve in the US military as a trans person. Putting a personal face on a complex issue, With Honor and Integrity features the stories of transgender service members across a range of ranks, all military branches, and a variety of occupational specialties and personal backgrounds and trans gender identities. Based on a data from the Williams Institute at UCLA, roughly 15,500 transgender persons served in the US military and 134,300 military veterans identify as transgender—though the actual numbers are certainly much higher. When “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” was repealed in 2011, the LGBT community declared a major victory, while transgender enlistees and officers continued serving in silence. On June 30, 2016, Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter announced that transgender people would be able to serve openly. On July 26, 2017, Donald Trump tweeted: “The United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military”. On January 25, 2021, Joe Biden reversed Trump’s widely condemned ban. On March 31, 2021, the President announced a new policy allowing transgender individuals to serve openly.

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OUT cast 11/01/2021